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What I Learned Screwing Up Two Pilsners I brewed in February

May 11th, 2012

I learned a lot on my last two beers.   I brewed two different pilsner recipes.   One was a slight modification of a beer that was a big hit and the other was an attempt at one of Jamil Zainasheff’s well known recipes in the “Northern German Pilsner”.    The two recipes can be found at the following links on Pocket Brewer where I post all my recipes for those who use my software:

Northern German Pilsner

A Modified (Saaz) Pilsdaddy Recipe

Here’s the things I did wrong:

  • I boiled with the top on to reduce boil off.  DMS
  • I forgot my clarifying agent for these beers which need to be very clear.
  • I had a seriously rolling boil which I learned was overkill later on.
  • I used hop balls to reduce trub without adjusting the level of hops.   Hop balls in my mind really reduce your IBUs.   Both beers were so low on bitterness it’s not even like drinking a pilsner.
  • I pitched warm then two weeks later I learned about not pitching warm.
  • Louisiana weather shifted on my room holding my lagering freezer which totally screwed the temperature.     The first two days the temperature was closer to 60 rather than the target of 50.   Later I learned about how these non-digital Johnson temperature controllers are way off.   I also learned that you should tape the sensor to the carboy.    The bottom line is the higher fermentation  probably contributed to ending up with not as clean a beer as I would’ve liked.

The end result was two somewhat cloudy beers which were more malty than bitter.    The beers were actually very drinkable but they just weren’t pilsner.    They display a light sweetness and not much bitter taste.   It really reminds me of drinking some sort of mild tasting ale with high alcohol.

I have learned quite a bit on these two beers.  Most was learned after the fact listening to The Brewing Network but learned none the less.   I will re-brew the exact same recipes in a few months to see what the results are.

What’s funniest is that for about two years now I’ve been having great results brewing lagers but lately the results have gotten less desirable.   It’s always been good beer but I didn’t get better results from the tweaks I made.   Things like the lid on the brew pot and hop balls were attempts to improve but they made things worse.   I am thinking keeping it simple and learning more about the science has helped me.

The Barley Oak in Mandeville

May 9th, 2012

Leading up to a recent road trip I wondered about a good spot to get a pint right off Interstate-12 between Baton Rouge and Biloxi.    I hit up a friend in the beer drinking business and he let me know he’d heard The Barley Oak was supposed to be awesome.   I looked up their website and thought darn this place looks too good to be true.   Well I’m happy to tell you that it’s actually better than on their website.

I’d never been to Mandeville or “Old Mandeville” as this area is called.  It was an extremely easy drive.   Essentially you get off of I-12 on to Highway 59 and head South until it ends in a just beautiful neighborhood.   You take a right and drive a couple of blocks until you see The Barley Oak on the right.

The Barley Oak and everything around it was shockingly beautiful.   It’s just not what I expect when I’m going find a pub.   You walk up and it’s this beautiful building on high brick stilts that looks like someones home.    Lots of really nice landscaping and perfectly clean.    You walk in to high ceilings, some beautiful couches to the left, tables to the right and a wonderful long bar across the back wall.   For a moment I felt like I was back in Europe as this place was top notch and not some cheap knock off.   But the most impressive part about the entire establishment was the bartender knew at least as much about beer as I did.    A shocking amount that a person would only know if they really loved and enjoyed beer themselves.    She talked about aroma, flavor, appearance, finish and knew everything about the respective regions and breweries.   Typically I can find fault in someones knowledge but this lady knew her beer.

Beerwise I had a couple of my German favorite.   I can’t pass up Kostritzer when I see it and I had a Dunkel with my German sausage plate I ordered.   The food was very good pub food and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I hated to leave but I’ll be back.   I think Highway 59 should be labeled “The Beer Exit” in that you can get off that exit, turn either way and end up at either The Barley Oak or Abita Brew Pub.

Website For The Barley Oak

The Barley Oak on Urbanspoon

Blood Bayou Helles Maibock Brewed 4/18/2012

May 3rd, 2012

This was an interesting one on brew day.   I went nuts and decided to try a number of things I heard on the Jamil Show marathon I’ve been on.   Ironically since the brew day I’ve continued to listen to the show and had some clarification on some of these things and why a few problems happened and have happened in the past.

  1. I adjusted my brewing water using this calculator on the side of caution and only using 75% of what it recommended to get ideal water.
  2. I attempted using a 45 minute mash on this one and had a much more poor efficiency than I typically do despite hitting temperatures fine.    I later realized I should’ve collected more wort which isn’t typically necessary in my usual 60 minute process.
  3. This was my first run at boiling without a lid.   I’d previously boiled with a lid due to my high evaporation rates but learned a lid will cause DMS issues when pilsner is involved so I am learning not to use it.
  4. I boiled off a great deal of water.  Again I later learned after the fact from the Jamil Show a super rigorous boil is not necessary and can cause some unwanted melanoidin formation.   Luckily for me in a bock this won’t be so bad.
  5. The fermentation was a little slow for my liking.  Again I learned from the Brew Strong show about starter sizes and why pitching rates are important and the math behind them.   However with a diacetyl rest the beer seems to have fermented to my liking.   Again; good thing it’s a bock I’m brewing.
  6. I used a teaspoon of re-hydrated Irish moss.   In the past I’ve used whirfloc but I decided to try this.

At this point I’m about to cold crash the beer and lager it.   I’m happy with the results and if the beer rocks I know how to do all the dastardly things about to reproduce it!   However if it’s just “ok” I’ll definitely rebrew this one with lessons learned.

Update May 29, 2012:  Here is how it played out:

About 3.5 gallons with an original gravity of 1.072 went in to the fermenter.    The IBU calculation on the Tinseth ended up about 52 with all the lost water and the bad mash efficiency.    It tastes very good I’m just not sure it’d qualify as a bock since it’s almost balanced in malt to ibu based on how it tastes.   Final gravity is about 1.016 so it’s on target there.   I think I’ll be calling this beer “Blood Bayou Bock” due to it’s very red color and the fact that I seriously hurt my finger washing the carboy after kegging it.    I did in fact put blood, sweat and tears in to this one!   Due to the process mistakes and loss to trub I got only 2.5-2.75 gallons but it’s good stuff.

Update June 4, 2012:  Taste Notes

A very heavy and very dopplebock like beer.    Tastes quite sweet and bitter to me.   I actually find it fantastic and easily had about 20 ounces of it on day one.   Beautiful head retention, mouthfeel and clarity.    Definitely a challenged success I believe I could reproduce and make better.

Update September 3, 2012: Taste Notes

Opened my last sample bottle before sending this beer to Dixie Cup in Houston and Roberts Cove Germanfest Homebrew contest.   Wow what a difference three months make in terms of bitterness falling out of a beer.   This beer has a VERY VERY big pilsen malt sweet smell to it and a very sweet taste to it.   It’s definitely malt heavy now.   It really reminds me of the store purchased examples I’ve had before except not as cloying as I’ve found those.

Here is the original Gameplan as designed in Pocket Brewer:

Name: Helles Maibock
Description: Single infusion mash.   Ferment at 48F until sloss then rest for 48 hours at 55F.   Lager for a month.  Big starter needed for all that gravity.
Post Boil Volume: 5.50
Pre Boil Volume: 6.00
Mash Time: 60.00
Boil Time: 60.00
Desired Original Gravity: 1.068
Desired Final Gravity: 1.011
Calculated Likely ABV% Based on Specified Gravities: 7.490
Users Targeted ABV%: 6.000
Desired CO2 Volumes: 2.5
Anticipated Brewhouse Efficiency: 68
Likely Original Gravity at 5.50 Based on Grains and Efficiency: @ 68% = 377 GU = 1.068

Grain: Pilsner (2 Row) Ger qty:11
Grain: Munich Malt qty:3
Grain: Vienna Malt qty:1

Hop : Magnum qty:1 at:60 mins. AA=14.00

Yeast: German Bock Lager qty:1 Max temp: 55.0 Min temp: 48.0

Style Name: Maibock/Helles Bock (Bock)
Helles Maibock Pocket Brewer XML Code»

Helles Maibock BeerXML Code»

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<?xml version=”1.0″ encoding=”utf-16″?>
<RecipeClass>
<BREWER>Pocket Brewer</BREWER>
<Type>All Grain</Type>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<OriginalGravity>1.068</OriginalGravity>
<OriginalGravityImportExport>1.068</OriginalGravityImportExport>
<FinalGravityImportExport>1.011</FinalGravityImportExport>
<FinalGravity>1.011</FinalGravity>
<BatchSize>5.5</BatchSize>
<BatchSizeImportExport>5.5</BatchSizeImportExport>
<BoilVolumeSize>6</BoilVolumeSize>
<BoilVolumeSizeImportExport>6</BoilVolumeSizeImportExport>
<CO2Volumes>2.5</CO2Volumes>
<BoilTime>60</BoilTime>
<MashTime>60</MashTime>
<TargetABV>6</TargetABV>
<BrewHouseEfficiency>68</BrewHouseEfficiency>
<Name>Helles Maibock</Name>
<Style />
<Description>Single infusion mash.   Ferment at 48F until sloss then rest for 48 hours at 55F.   Lager for a month.  Big starter needed for all that gravity.</Description>
<StyleIdExact>5A</StyleIdExact>
<StyleIdGeneral>5</StyleIdGeneral>
<Yeasts>
<YeastAdditionClass>
<Quantity>1</Quantity>
<Name>German Bock Lager</Name>
<ProductID>WLP833</ProductID>
</YeastAdditionClass>
</Yeasts>
<Hops>
<HopAdditionClass>
<USE>Boil</USE>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<NOTES>German Hallertauer hybrid, widely used in Germany</NOTES>
<QuantityIO>1</QuantityIO>
<Quantity>1</Quantity>
<QuantityText>1</QuantityText>
<Alpha>12.2</Alpha>
<AlphaText>12.2</AlphaText>
<TinsethIBUS>33</TinsethIBUS>
<IsWholeHop>false</IsWholeHop>
<TimeInMinutes>60</TimeInMinutes>
<TimeInMinutesText>60</TimeInMinutesText>
<Name>Magnum</Name>
<Visible>Visible</Visible>
</HopAdditionClass>
</Hops>
<Grains>
<GrainAdditionClass>
<QuantityIO>11</QuantityIO>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<YIELD>81.00</YIELD>
<COLOR>2.0</COLOR>
<ORIGIN>Germany</ORIGIN>
<SUPPLIER />
<NOTES>German base for Pilsners and Bohemian Lagers</NOTES>
<Quantity>11</Quantity>
<PotentialSpecificGravity>1.037</PotentialSpecificGravity>
<Type>Grain</Type>
<Name>Pilsner (2 Row) Ger</Name>
</GrainAdditionClass>
<GrainAdditionClass>
<QuantityIO>3</QuantityIO>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<YIELD>80.00</YIELD>
<COLOR>9.0</COLOR>
<ORIGIN>Germany</ORIGIN>
<SUPPLIER />
<NOTES />
<Quantity>3</Quantity>
<PotentialSpecificGravity>1.037</PotentialSpecificGravity>
<Type>Grain</Type>
<Name>Munich Malt</Name>
</GrainAdditionClass>
<GrainAdditionClass>
<QuantityIO>1</QuantityIO>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<YIELD>78.00</YIELD>
<COLOR>3.5</COLOR>
<ORIGIN>Germany</ORIGIN>
<SUPPLIER />
<NOTES />
<Quantity>1</Quantity>
<PotentialSpecificGravity>1.036</PotentialSpecificGravity>
<Type>Grain</Type>
<Name>Vienna Malt</Name>
</GrainAdditionClass>
</Grains>
<Adjuncts />
<MISCS />
<WATERS />
<MASH>
<MASH_STEPS />
<VERSION>0</VERSION>
<GRAIN_TEMP>0</GRAIN_TEMP>
<TUN_TEMP>0</TUN_TEMP>
<SPARGE_TEMP>0</SPARGE_TEMP>
<PH>0</PH>
<TUN_WEIGHT>0</TUN_WEIGHT>
<TUN_SPECIFIC_HEAT>0</TUN_SPECIFIC_HEAT>
</MASH>
<Id>f3d685c7-d53c-4ecb-bda4-814f63d3f441</Id>
<BrewHouse>
<Efficiency>68</Efficiency>
</BrewHouse>
</RecipeClass>

<?xml version=”1.0″ encoding=”utf-16″?>
<RECIPE>
<NAME>Helles Maibock</NAME>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<TYPE>All Grain</TYPE>
<NOTES>Single infusion mash.   Ferment at 48F until sloss then rest for 48 hours at 55F.   Lager for a month.  Big starter needed for all that gravity.</NOTES>
<BREWER>Pocket Brewer</BREWER>
<BATCH_SIZE>20.8189</BATCH_SIZE>
<BOIL_TIME>60</BOIL_TIME>
<BOIL_SIZE>22.7115</BOIL_SIZE>
<EFFICIENCY>68</EFFICIENCY>
<FG>1.011</FG>
<OG>1.068</OG>
<CARBONATION>2.5</CARBONATION>
<HOPS>
<HOP>
<NAME>Magnum</NAME>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<ALPHA>12.2</ALPHA>
<AMOUNT>0.0283</AMOUNT>
<USE>Boil</USE>
<TIME>60</TIME>
<NOTES>German Hallertauer hybrid, widely used in Germany</NOTES>
</HOP>
</HOPS>
<FERMENTABLES>
<FERMENTABLE>
<NAME>Pilsner (2 Row) Ger</NAME>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<AMOUNT>4.9895</AMOUNT>
<TYPE>Grain</TYPE>
<YIELD>81.00</YIELD>
<COLOR>2.0</COLOR>
<ORIGIN>Germany</ORIGIN>
<SUPPLIER />
<NOTES>German base for Pilsners and Bohemian Lagers</NOTES>
<COARSE_FINE_DIFF>1.50</COARSE_FINE_DIFF>
<MOISTURE>4.00</MOISTURE>
<DISASTATIC_POWER>110.0</DISASTATIC_POWER>
<PROTEIN>11.00</PROTEIN>
<MAX_IN_BATCH>100.00</MAX_IN_BATCH>
<POTENTIAL>1.037</POTENTIAL>
</FERMENTABLE>
<FERMENTABLE>
<NAME>Munich Malt</NAME>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<AMOUNT>1.3608</AMOUNT>
<TYPE>Grain</TYPE>
<YIELD>80.00</YIELD>
<COLOR>9.0</COLOR>
<ORIGIN>Germany</ORIGIN>
<SUPPLIER />
<NOTES />
<COARSE_FINE_DIFF>1.30</COARSE_FINE_DIFF>
<MOISTURE>5.00</MOISTURE>
<DISASTATIC_POWER>72.0</DISASTATIC_POWER>
<PROTEIN>11.50</PROTEIN>
<MAX_IN_BATCH>80.00</MAX_IN_BATCH>
<POTENTIAL>1.037</POTENTIAL>
</FERMENTABLE>
<FERMENTABLE>
<NAME>Vienna Malt</NAME>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<AMOUNT>0.4536</AMOUNT>
<TYPE>Grain</TYPE>
<YIELD>78.00</YIELD>
<COLOR>3.5</COLOR>
<ORIGIN>Germany</ORIGIN>
<SUPPLIER />
<NOTES />
<COARSE_FINE_DIFF>1.50</COARSE_FINE_DIFF>
<MOISTURE>4.00</MOISTURE>
<DISASTATIC_POWER>50.0</DISASTATIC_POWER>
<PROTEIN>11.00</PROTEIN>
<MAX_IN_BATCH>90.00</MAX_IN_BATCH>
<POTENTIAL>1.036</POTENTIAL>
</FERMENTABLE>
</FERMENTABLES>
<MISCS />
<WATERS />
<YEASTS>
<YEAST>
<NAME>German Bock Lager</NAME>
<TYPE>Lager</TYPE>
<VERSION>0</VERSION>
<FORM>Liquid</FORM>
<AMOUNT>1</AMOUNT>
<LABORATORY>White Labs</LABORATORY>
<PRODUCT_ID>WLP833</PRODUCT_ID>
<MIN_TEMPERATURE>48.0</MIN_TEMPERATURE>
<MAX_TEMPERATURE>55.0</MAX_TEMPERATURE>
<ATTENUATION>73.00</ATTENUATION>
<NOTES>Produces beer that has balanced malt and hop character.  From Southern Bavaria.</NOTES>
<BEST_FOR>Bocks, Doppelbocks, Oktoberfest, Vienna, Helles, some American Pilsners</BEST_FOR>
<FLOCCULATION>Medium</FLOCCULATION>
</YEAST>
</YEASTS>
<MASH>
<MASH_STEPS />
<VERSION>0</VERSION>
<GRAIN_TEMP>0</GRAIN_TEMP>
<TUN_TEMP>0</TUN_TEMP>
<SPARGE_TEMP>0</SPARGE_TEMP>
<PH>0</PH>
<TUN_WEIGHT>0</TUN_WEIGHT>
<TUN_SPECIFIC_HEAT>0</TUN_SPECIFIC_HEAT>
</MASH>
<STYLE>
<NAME>Maibock/Helles Bock</NAME>
<CATEGORY>Bock</CATEGORY>
<CATEGORY_NUMBER>5</CATEGORY_NUMBER>
<STYLE_LETTER>A</STYLE_LETTER>
<STYLE_GUIDE>BJCP</STYLE_GUIDE>
<VERSION>1</VERSION>
<TYPE>Lager</TYPE>
<OG_MIN>1.064</OG_MIN>
<OG_MAX>1.072</OG_MAX>
<FG_MIN>1.011</FG_MIN>
<FG_MAX>1.018</FG_MAX>
<IBU_MIN>23</IBU_MIN>
<IBU_MAX>35</IBU_MAX>
<COLOR_MIN>6.0</COLOR_MIN>
<COLOR_MAX>11.0</COLOR_MAX>
<ABV_MIN>6.3</ABV_MIN>
<ABV_MAX>7.4</ABV_MAX>
<NOTES>Can be thought of as either a pale version of a traditional bock, or a Munich helles brewed to bock strength.  While quite malty, this beer typically has less dark and rich malt flavors than a traditional bock.  May also be drier, hoppier, and more bitter than a traditional bock.  The hops compensate for the lower level of melanoidins.  There is some dispute whether Helles (“pale”) Bock and Mai (“May”) Bock are synonymous.  Most agree that they are identical (as is the consensus for Märzen and Oktoberfest), but some believe that Maibock is a “fest” type beer hitting the upper limits of hopping and color for the range. Any fruitiness is due to Munich and other specialty malts, not yeast-derived esters developed during fermentation.</NOTES>
</STYLE>
</RECIPE>

Finally Starting a Beer Website and Blog

May 2nd, 2012

Well I suppose it’s overdue at this point.   Currently I write a bit about beer brewing on my personal website JerryOdom.com and find it hard to resist urges to write more personal beer entries on the blog for my beer brewing software app Pocket Brewer.    I also tend to post a lot of information concerning beer on my Best of Baton Rouge website.

So here it is; post 1 on the new BayouBeer.com website.   I intend to use this website as a journal for beer brewing recipes I brew and information concerning beer brewing and drinking in Louisiana and most specifically the Baton Rouge area where I live.   The value of all this information I work so hard on learning is so much more if I put it in a post for my fellow Louisiana beer brewers and beer lovers to share.     Please feel free to contact me with any questions or comments concerning the site or beer in general.

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